Were the Days of Creation literal or figurative?

Listen as Dr. Lawrence discusses the science and Scripture that answers the question, “Were the Days of Creation literal or figurative?” #RadioIsotopicDating, #daysofcreation, Part 1. January 14, 2017:

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welcome to creation ministry i’m your

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host dr. Troy Lawrence in life whenever

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we want to negotiate something we’ll

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trying to we’ll ask the person Hey is

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the price written in stone

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where did this come from where is it


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that when something is written in stone

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it is unchangeable it is concrete it is

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firm

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well it comes from Scripture it comes

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from exodus from the Ten Commandments

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listen to what God set he wrote through

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the pen of Moses in Exodus 20 and by the

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way the purpose of creation ministry is

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to remove stumbling blocks put up by man

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potentially through doctrines of demons

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that get us away from the plain reading

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of the scriptures when mankind has

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posted up stumbling blocks then

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then believers are less likely to get

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into the scriptures less likely to read

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the plain simple Scriptures because we

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think they’re riddled with errors

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specifically at the Genesis creation

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account so the purpose of creation

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ministry is to provide the science

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provide the scriptures that support as

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exactly as God testified in his written

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word

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so listen to what he wrote in Exodus 20

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in verse 8 he says remember the sabbath

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to keep it holy

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six days you shall labor and do all your

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work for in six days the Lord made the

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heavens and the earth the sea in all

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that is in them and rested on the

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seventh day folks that’s dead in the

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middle of the Ten Commandments right

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after that you have you shall not murder

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you shall not commit adultery you shall

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not steal and just before that God said

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you shall have no other graven you shall

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have no other gods before me you shall

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not make for yourself any idol it’s dead

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in the middle of the Ten Commandments

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but for some reason somehow because of

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the tsunami

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of the schemes of mankind the and that

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the temptations of Satan we don’t adhere

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to exactly what’s written here in Exodus

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20:11 we say oh the days in in the

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Genesis creation account no God didn’t

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literally mean days he meant eat eons he

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meant epics and we’re going to interpret

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the Bible according to the lens that the

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paradigm of man has set up so today

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we’re going to work on some of some of

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the dating methods that mankind has set

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up to get us away from the plain and

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simple reading of the Genesis creation

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account by the way it should be noted

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that day in genesis does mean both eons

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epics and it does mean a literal

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rotation of the earth

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so how does one discern the difference

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between the two in the Genesis creation

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account the word day is young in each

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day of the Genesis creation account the

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word Yom is written now if there’s no

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defining term no associated term next to

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the word day next to the word young they

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can mean any length of time

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indeterminate for example in the day of

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the Lord now there’s no defining term to

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link with the word day so therefore it’s

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undetermined the amount of time it’s any

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amount of time but one hundred percent

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of the time in the scriptures when an

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associated term specifically a number is

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linked to the word day it’s always a

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rotation of the earth

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Jesus fasted for 40 days no one says

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that was 40 minutes or 40,000 years and

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in the Genesis creation account there’s

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a number with each day first day second

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day third day and so on each day has an

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associated defining term to force the

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reader to understand that it’s a literal

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rotation of the earth

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and God’s not done God knew we would

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struggle with whether the day meant a

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thousand years whether the day meant

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millions of years billions of years God

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doesn’t increase in knowledge he knew

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the end from the beginning so he knew we

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would struggle at this

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so he put another defining associated

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term to force us to understand the word

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yom in the Genesis creation account do

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you know it is you probably already have

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it its and there was evening and there

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was morning that phrase is mentioned for

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every day in the Genesis creation

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account so you have two defining terms

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associated terms to define the word Yom

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to define the word day and they are the

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number and they are the phrase and there

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was evening and morning that forces the

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definite article the first day the second

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day the third day for each day of the

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Genesis creation account that definite

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articles forced in there because the two

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defining and associated terms and in

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Scripture whenever there’s a number

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linked to the word day one hundred

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percent of the time it is interpreted as

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a literal rotation of the earth and and

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scripture interpret scripture so you go

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to the Ten Commandments who wrote the

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Ten Commandments God wrote the Ten

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Commandments through the pen of Moses

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but in in in the Torah but the literal

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Ten Commandments were written in stone

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by the finger of God himself and he

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didn’t do it once so you have in Exodus

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20 verse 11 God directly says you you

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should work six days and rest the

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seventh for in six days there’s the

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defining associated term six in front of

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the Yom linking and enforcing us to

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define Yom as of literal rotation of

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the earth

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for in six days the Lord made the

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heavens and the earth the sea and all

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that is in them and rested the seventh

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day folks remember that the record Moses

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destroyed that ten commandment that

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tablet of stone that God wrote down so

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not once did God verbally tell Moses that

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he created everything in six days and

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rested the seventh not once did God write

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in stone with his own hand that he made

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everything in six days and rested the

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seventh in the middle of the Ten

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Commandments no he did it twice

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turn to your Bible in exodus chapter 31

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go to verse 17 God is laying out the

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same instructions six days you shall

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work and the seventh day you shall rest

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for it is a sign between this is verse

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17 it is a sign between me and the sons

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of Israel forever for in six days the

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Lord made the heaven and the earth but

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on the seventh day he ceased and was

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refreshed folks twice God wrote in stone

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twice he told Moses he created

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everything in six days seven times he

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put a number to define the day in the

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Genesis creation account he also gave us

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the phrase and there was evening and

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there was morning and the Genesis

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creation account that’s why we’re forced

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to put the definite article the second

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day the third day the fourth day and so

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on

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so what is getting us away from the

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Genesis creation account is it the

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schemes and doctrines of demons first

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Timothy 4 says seducing spirits will

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come in the latter days and people will

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fall away from the truth and turn to

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doctrines of demons is that one of it

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the greatest heresy that has ever been

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perpetrated is that the working of Jesus

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Christ on the cross was insufficient and

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we needed to

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do works to obtain salvation

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that’s a doctrine of demon but I contend

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one of the second-greatest is this

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doctrine that says the Genesis creation

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account is not accurate and in 2nd

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Timothy 4 chapter 4 1st 3 we get another

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clue of what’s going to happen in the

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end times Paul wrote for the time will

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come when they will not endure sound

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doctrine but to have their ears tickled

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they will accumulate for themselves

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teachers in accordance to their own

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desires and will turn away their ears

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from the truth and turn aside to myths

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plural myths

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what are the myths one of them i contend

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is the notion of molecules to man that

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life came about through abiogenesis that

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is life came about from nonliving

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material to get to life

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this is opposite of what the Scriptures

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teach so let’s just let’s go through

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some of the science that is getting

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mankind away from the Genesis creation

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account specifically radio isotopic

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dating a couple weeks ago we talked

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about radio active carbon 14 dating and

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the flaws behind that and that is the

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notion that when the creature died

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it died with a full complement of

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carbon-14 and I illustrated that that

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is a leap of faith

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there’s no way to prove that when the

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creature died it died with a full

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complement of carbon-14 and we can show

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that cosmic radiation when it comes in

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contact with nitrogen in the atmosphere

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it converts carbon it converts nitrogen

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to carbon-14 to the tune of 20 pounds

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per year of gas and the atmosphere is

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slightly increasing every year so as you

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go back in time life had less

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radioactive carbon 14 in it

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alright so let’s tackle radio isotoic

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dating

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what is radioisotopic dating

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this dating method seemingly is the most

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accurate dating method there is and and

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how it comes about is there’s elements

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that are radioactive remember the

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Periodic Chart in in school where you

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had all the elements starting with

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hydrogen and then ending with the

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natural element uranium well some of

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those elements are radioactive which

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means they’re unstable in their natural

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form and they want to lose electrons to

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become stable the radioactive elements

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starting with polonium and plutonium and

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radon and thorium and uranium

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they’re unstable they do not like to

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remain in that high electron state they

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want to slowly lose electrons through

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alpha emissions and beta emissions and

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to finally get to stop us the first

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stable element and that would be lead

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so what we’re able to do through ion mass

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spectrometers is see how many lead

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ions have formed as a result of decay

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the decay process from let’s say

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polonium and then we can determine the

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age because we know the rate of polonium

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decay today so by simple arithmetic

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dividing the quantity of lead by ions by

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the quantity of polonium ions x the

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constant rate of decay that we see today

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we get the exact age of the item that

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we’re testing and we come up with

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billions of years to establish the earth

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is 4.6 billion years old so where’s the

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problem here this this notion has duped

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too many people is it that the math is

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wrong

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no the math is not wrong what’s wrong

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with this well there’s two parts to

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what’s wrong with this arithmetic

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formula one is the notion that the

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constant rate of decay that we see today

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has always been constant folks this

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notion is not new the Bible has

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addressed this implicitly this is in

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second Peter the notion that is called

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the uniformitarian theory

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the uniformitarian theory is that the

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decay rates we see today the process of

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soil settling accumulation today is what

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has always been the the processes we see

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today have proceeded at the same

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constant rate forever in the past this

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is not something new the Holy Spirit

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inspired Peter to write and second Peter

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chapter 3

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listen listen to this in verse 3 know

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this first of all that in the last days

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and folks we are in the last days

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correct yes know this first of all that in

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the last days mockers will come with

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their mocking if you want to be mocked

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you go by the plain reading of the

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Genesis creation account there is no

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greater mocking besides saying that you

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accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and

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Savior the second-greatest mocking is to

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say I accept the word of god as it’s

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plainly reading written i do not

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interpret the word of god through the

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lens of atheistic paradigms you want to

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be mocked

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that’s how you get mocked you stand firm

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by the Word of God you’ll be ridiculed

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matter-of-fact atheist Richard Dawkins

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has publicly said we should mock

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creationist for their folly

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so Peter writes know this first of all

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that in the last days mockers will come

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with their mocking following after their

0:15:07.550,0:15:09.680
own lusts and saying where is the

0:15:09.680,0:15:11.990
promise of his coming for since the

0:15:11.990,0:15:13.819
father’s fall asleep here it comes here

0:15:13.819,0:15:17.060
comes all continues just as it was from

0:15:17.060,0:15:20.509
the beginning of creation folks that’s

0:15:20.509,0:15:22.759
the uniformitarian theory that’s the

0:15:22.759,0:15:25.550
theory that radio isotopic dating is

0:15:25.550,0:15:29.060
hanging on that the rate of decay we see

0:15:29.060,0:15:32.209
today is the rate of decay it has always

0:15:32.209,0:15:37.009
been so what’s the problem with the

0:15:37.009,0:15:39.319
taking the leap of faith that the

0:15:39.319,0:15:41.089
constant rate of decay that we see today

0:15:41.089,0:15:44.240
has always been constant there’s two

0:15:44.240,0:15:47.750
problems with that one is we can see

0:15:47.750,0:15:51.500
through observation that thing’s

0:15:51.500,0:15:53.630
actually decay at an accelerated rate

0:15:53.630,0:15:54.680
when there’s trauma

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involved take for example life if we had

0:15:57.560,0:15:59.480
two twins and we separated them at birth

0:15:59.480,0:16:02.899
and we have-we distressed one with its

0:16:02.899,0:16:05.300
environmental conditions such as living

0:16:05.300,0:16:07.610
in a hot zone in the desert and let’s

0:16:07.610,0:16:10.820
say we add some vices living vices so it

0:16:10.820,0:16:12.950
ate poorly it didn’t get enough sleep in it

0:16:12.950,0:16:15.440
it’s that that child struggled with that

0:16:15.440,0:16:17.420
let’s add some more devices such as

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tobacco and alcohol abuse and drug abuse

0:16:20.600,0:16:24.589
we will see that those traumas that we

0:16:24.589,0:16:26.690
induce internally into that creature

0:16:26.690,0:16:28.730
that life that it accelerates the aging

0:16:28.730,0:16:30.410
process you’ll be able to look at the

0:16:30.410,0:16:33.110
exterior of that living being and see

0:16:33.110,0:16:35.570
that age faster but we’re not talking

0:16:35.570,0:16:38.029
about living being we’re talking about

0:16:38.029,0:16:41.690
natural elements in on the molecular

0:16:41.690,0:16:42.320
level

0:16:42.320,0:16:46.459
so let’s use another example let’s let’s

0:16:46.459,0:16:50.060
look at the coal record coal mines are

0:16:50.060,0:16:53.060
arm around the earth coal comes from

0:16:53.060,0:16:56.420
botanical life that was compressed and

0:16:56.420,0:16:58.880
heated and and the theory is that’s

0:16:58.880,0:17:00.890
perpetrated around the world by the

0:17:00.890,0:17:04.130
world is that coal slowly formed 20

0:17:04.130,0:17:05.329
million years ago

0:17:05.329,0:17:08.630
folks we can go into a lab today and

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take a piece of wood and if we seal it

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in a vacuum such as a buried scenario

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and we add trace elements of clay and

0:17:17.480,0:17:19.970
trace elements of water which is what

0:17:19.970,0:17:21.740
we’d expect to find near a buried

0:17:21.740,0:17:25.490
volcano area and add heat a hundred

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fifty degrees celsius in eight months

0:17:27.890,0:17:30.920
will be able to convert that wood to

0:17:30.920,0:17:35.270
coal argonne national laboratory has

0:17:35.270,0:17:38.690
successfully converted coal on converted

0:17:38.690,0:17:41.780
wood to coal in months that is

0:17:41.780,0:17:44.540
indistinguishable from all test applied

0:17:44.540,0:17:47.120
to coal that is allegedly 20 million

0:17:47.120,0:17:50.900
years old in the ground so you see by

0:17:50.900,0:17:54.350
trauma we can accelerate the decay

0:17:54.350,0:17:55.429
process

0:17:55.429,0:17:57.920
let’s use another example to indicate

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that the constant rate of decay that is

0:17:59.870,0:18:02.450
that the radio isotopic dating is

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hedging on is not to be taken as a leap

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of faith that it’s always been constant

0:18:08.300,0:18:10.760
throughout eternity one is petrified

0:18:10.760,0:18:15.500
wood petrified wood is when wood turns

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to stone by the process of adding

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moisture pressure heat and silica then

0:18:23.330,0:18:27.290
what’s allegedly taught is that the the

0:18:27.290,0:18:30.470
wood turn to stone over 500,000

0:18:30.470,0:18:32.720
year-old process so when you go to the

0:18:32.720,0:18:35.750
natural petrified forest and and the

0:18:35.750,0:18:37.820
tour guide is teaching you and

0:18:37.820,0:18:41.300
he or she says this petrified tree a

0:18:41.300,0:18:43.970
occurred 500 thousand years ago well

0:18:43.970,0:18:47.240
then the genealogical written record in

0:18:47.240,0:18:51.770
Genesis five and Genesis 11 it would be

0:18:51.770,0:18:54.950
then an error where when you take the

0:18:54.950,0:18:56.840
geological record written in the Bible

0:18:56.840,0:18:59.000
then you can only come up with the age

0:18:59.000,0:19:02.270
of the earth be in 6,000 to 10,000 the most

0:19:02.270,0:19:04.880
this this battle on truth

0:19:04.880,0:19:07.130
so what is going on with that well mount

0:19:07.130,0:19:09.380
st. Helen in washington the state of

0:19:09.380,0:19:10.910
Washington had a violent volcanic

0:19:10.910,0:19:14.240
eruption 1980 and what did they find

0:19:14.240,0:19:16.940
as a result of this eruption petrified

0:19:16.940,0:19:17.750
wood

0:19:17.750,0:19:22.520
30 30 years three decades as a result of

0:19:22.520,0:19:25.190
the trauma from mount st. helens

0:19:25.190,0:19:28.370
eruption volcanic activity petrified

0:19:28.370,0:19:32.240
trees have occurred in three decades and

0:19:32.240,0:19:35.210
that’s not all uniformitarian as these

0:19:35.210,0:19:36.920
are people who say the rate of decay we

0:19:36.920,0:19:38.660
see today is the rate it’s always been

0:19:38.660,0:19:40.880
for which radioisotopic dating is

0:19:40.880,0:19:44.030
hinged upon they would say petroleum oil

0:19:44.030,0:19:47.150
is another example of an older that

0:19:47.150,0:19:50.270
petroleum oil in the ground is from but

0:19:50.270,0:19:54.290
biomass such as living creatures and

0:19:54.290,0:19:56.960
algae that as a result of being bearing

0:19:56.960,0:20:00.080
through a slow process of soil sediment

0:20:00.080,0:20:03.980
that they decayed over a long period of

0:20:03.980,0:20:06.200
time 50 million years and we finally get

0:20:06.200,0:20:09.410
petroleum oil folks that is simply not

0:20:09.410,0:20:12.920
accurate listen to this we can take

0:20:12.920,0:20:15.170
through the process of distillation

0:20:15.170,0:20:17.810
chicken by-product such as adipose

0:20:17.810,0:20:21.660
ligaments tendons or even Al Jean

0:20:21.660,0:20:25.410
with water and high heat and we get

0:20:25.410,0:20:27.930
through a process called distillation we

0:20:27.930,0:20:32.490
get petroleum oil in 30 minutes

0:20:32.490,0:20:35.310
let that sink in the process is

0:20:35.310,0:20:38.130
accelerated as a result of trauma

0:20:38.130,0:20:40.500
why are they interpreting that petroleum

0:20:40.500,0:20:43.260
oil takes 50 million years the reason is

0:20:43.260,0:20:46.170
the notion of macro-evolution Darwinian

0:20:46.170,0:20:49.500
evolution molecules to man is a slow

0:20:49.500,0:20:54.120
process so it requires the notion of old

0:20:54.120,0:20:56.700
earth billions of years to allow the

0:20:56.700,0:20:59.490
timeframe for evolution molecules demand

0:20:59.490,0:21:00.990
therefore the Bible would be wrong

0:21:00.990,0:21:05.610
because God wrote in Deuteronomy 4:32 the

0:21:05.610,0:21:09.330
day that God created man and the Holy

0:21:09.330,0:21:13.050
Spirit wrote through the pin of of in

0:21:13.050,0:21:17.790
acts 17 verse 26 god made through from

0:21:17.790,0:21:20.400
one man all the nations to dwell on the

0:21:20.400,0:21:23.550
earth so these are two polemic views

0:21:23.550,0:21:26.460
two polarizing views on the opposite

0:21:26.460,0:21:30.630
ends of the spectrum it’s either man’s

0:21:30.630,0:21:33.510
philosophy molecules to man or it’s

0:21:33.510,0:21:37.770
God’s written testimony that he wrote in

0:21:37.770,0:21:40.470
stone with his own hand but he made

0:21:40.470,0:21:42.720
everything in six days and rested the

0:21:42.720,0:21:43.620
seventh day

0:21:43.620,0:21:46.410
ok so we’ve looked at we can accelerate

0:21:46.410,0:21:48.420
life through trauma we can accelerate

0:21:48.420,0:21:51.660
converting wood to coal through trauma

0:21:51.660,0:21:54.870
we can accelerate the conversion of

0:21:54.870,0:21:58.770
biomass to petroleum by trauma whether

0:21:58.770,0:22:00.570
we are discussing radioactive decay

0:22:00.570,0:22:03.210
rates cellular decay rates

0:22:03.210,0:22:05.130
molecular decay rates and so forth

0:22:05.130,0:22:07.500
trauma accelerates the decay process

0:22:07.500,0:22:11.670
trauma whether mechanical chemical or

0:22:11.670,0:22:14.670
radioactive energy accelerates the rate

0:22:14.670,0:22:18.150
of entropy folks regarding the

0:22:18.150,0:22:21.570
radioisotopic dating it is hinged

0:22:21.570,0:22:25.470
and directly hint holding exclusively on

0:22:25.470,0:22:27.600
that the rate of decay of these

0:22:27.600,0:22:31.440
radioactive elements are hinged upon

0:22:31.440,0:22:34.350
that the rate of decay has been constant

0:22:34.350,0:22:36.450
a German lab and I can’t even pronounce

0:22:36.450,0:22:41.880
this word but they have a 15-year study

0:22:41.880,0:22:44.280
of the decay rate of radioactive

0:22:44.280,0:22:47.039
elements and this is evidence for solar

0:22:47.039,0:22:49.710
rotation modulation published online in

0:22:49.710,0:22:55.710
November 2010 by ptb German lab they

0:22:55.710,0:22:57.840
have found that the rate of decay from

0:22:57.840,0:23:02.010
of uranium has seasonal and monthly

0:23:02.010,0:23:03.720
fluctuations

0:23:03.720,0:23:05.610
what is it linked to they don’t know why

0:23:05.610,0:23:09.510
yet but they link it to solar flares on

0:23:09.510,0:23:11.429
a one-to-one ratio they’re not sure this

0:23:11.429,0:23:14.280
is just a burgeoning study but they have

0:23:14.280,0:23:17.250
found that the rate of decay is not even

0:23:17.250,0:23:20.460
constant in our own viewing folks you

0:23:20.460,0:23:22.590
have to understand that the length of

0:23:22.590,0:23:24.630
time that we have been observing the

0:23:24.630,0:23:27.240
rate of decay of radioactive elements

0:23:27.240,0:23:30.030
such as uranium and polonium is on such

0:23:30.030,0:23:33.900
a brief scale maybe 50 to 75 years so to

0:23:33.900,0:23:36.600
take the leap of faith that the rate of

0:23:36.600,0:23:40.650
decay has been constant forever to then

0:23:40.650,0:23:42.750
undermined the written word and

0:23:42.750,0:23:46.020
testimony of God and what he saw and

0:23:46.020,0:23:49.679
what he did is just folly

0:23:49.679,0:23:53.820
why take a leap of faith in what is

0:23:53.820,0:23:56.130
flawed that we see the rate of the case

0:23:56.130,0:23:57.929
or not even constant today

0:23:57.929,0:24:02.460
ok there’s more trauma to talk about so

0:24:02.460,0:24:05.070
not only do we have small energy such as

0:24:05.070,0:24:08.370
solar flare that has that results in

0:24:08.370,0:24:10.890
seasonal fluctuation seasonal nearly

0:24:10.890,0:24:12.690
fluctuations in the rate of decay of

0:24:12.690,0:24:15.990
uranium but there are two huge events

0:24:15.990,0:24:20.429
that would cause massive trauma one the

0:24:20.429,0:24:23.610
greatest traumatic event event in the in

0:24:23.610,0:24:25.919
the entire history of the universe the

0:24:25.919,0:24:30.929
creation of all energy that was the most

0:24:30.929,0:24:33.419
violent event in the history of the

0:24:33.419,0:24:36.059
universe the second most violent event

0:24:36.059,0:24:37.919
in the history of the universe was on

0:24:37.919,0:24:40.260
the second day of creation the great

0:24:40.260,0:24:44.040
expansion we call this the big bang that

0:24:44.040,0:24:47.860
expansion was so violent it accelerated

0:24:47.860,0:24:50.799
the rates of decay there’s more to this

0:24:50.799,0:24:53.440
and we’ll discuss next time but dr.

0:24:53.440,0:24:56.679
Robert Gentry has found in the granite

0:24:56.679,0:25:02.080
rock halos and these halos are when

0:25:02.080,0:25:05.140
radioactive elements leave a remnant of

0:25:05.140,0:25:07.720
vestigial of themselves when they decay

0:25:07.720,0:25:12.400
in the granite rock these halos show

0:25:12.400,0:25:15.070
spherical results there they look like

0:25:15.070,0:25:17.890
if you put alka seltzer and water the

0:25:17.890,0:25:19.990
bubbling of fat and they’re fleeting

0:25:19.990,0:25:23.260
they last only seconds so when you find

0:25:23.260,0:25:26.890
halos in the granite the bedrock of the

0:25:26.890,0:25:30.280
crust as dr. robert gentry a physicist

0:25:30.280,0:25:32.440
has found then we can understand that

0:25:32.440,0:25:37.090
that the uranium didn’t slowly decay to

0:25:37.090,0:25:40.030
polonium because he found these halos as

0:25:40.030,0:25:42.280
polonium itself with no heavier element

0:25:42.280,0:25:44.799
note that it descended ok we’re running

0:25:44.799,0:25:46.720
out of time we got to cut it short

0:25:46.720,0:25:48.669
unfortunately there’s so much to discuss

0:25:48.669,0:25:50.980
about you have any questions go to my

0:25:50.980,0:25:53.980
website creation ministry .org

0:25:53.980,0:25:55.750
contact me you can purchase my book

0:25:55.750,0:25:58.480
origins, the origins of matter, space, time,

0:25:58.480,0:26:00.669
and life and in here you’ll get the

0:26:00.669,0:26:02.679
details of the science that supports the

0:26:02.679,0:26:04.660
Genesis creation account and global

0:26:04.660,0:26:38.350
flood have a blessed weekend

Dr. Troy Lawrence

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